Bhagavati-sutra (Viyaha-pannatti)
by K. C. Lalwani | 1973 | 185,989 words
The English translation of the Bhagavati-sutra which is the fifth Jaina Agama (canonical literature). It is a large encyclopedic work in the form of a dialogue where Mahavira replies to various question. The present form of the Sutra dates to the fifth century A.D. Abhayadeva Suri wrote a vritti (commentary) on the Bhagavati in A.D. 1071. In his J...
Part 3 - Karma experience and exhaustion
Q. 61. Bhante! Is experience (with karma) the same as exhaustion (of karma), and vice versa?
A. 61. No, it is not.
Q. 62. Bhante! Why do you say that experience is not the same as exhaustion, and vice versa?
A. 62. Gautama! Karma is experience, no-karma is exhaustion. Hence so.
Q. 63. Bhante! As for the infernal beings, is experience the same as exhaustion, and vice versa?
A. 63. No, it is not so.
Q. 64. Bhante! Why do you say so?
A. 64. Gautama! With the infernal beings, karma is experience, no-karma is exhaustion. Hence so, and like this, till the Vaimānikas.
Q. 65. Bhante! Is it correct that when a karma has been experienced, it has been exhausted, and when a karma has been exhausted, it has already been experienced?
A. 65. No, this is not correct.
Q. 66. Bhante! Why do you say so?
A. 66. Gautama! I say so because karma is to be experienced, while no-karma is its exhaustion.
Q. 67. Bhante! In the case of the infernal beings, is a karma which is experienced is also karma exhausted?
A. 67. The same holds of the infernal beings, till the Vaimānikas.
Q. 68. Bhante! Is it correct that when a karma is being experienced, it is being exhausted, and when a karma is being exhausted, it is being experienced?
A. 68. No, this is not correct.
Q. 69. Bhante! Why do you say so?
A. 69. Gautama! Karma is what is being experienced; no-karma is what is exhausted. Hence so, and this holds good of the infernal beings, till the Vaimānikas.
Q. 70. Bhante! Is it correct that when a karma will be experienced, it will be exhausted, and vice versa?
A. 70. Gautama! This too is not correct.
Q. 71. Bhante! Why do you say so?
A. 71. Gautama! I say so because karma will be experienced, while no-karma will be exhausted. This holds good of the infernal beings, till the Vaimānikas.
Q. 72. Bhante! Is it correct that what is time for karma experience is also time for its exhaustion, and vice versa?
A. 72. No, this is not correct.
Q. 73. Bhante! Why do you say so?
A. 73. Gautama! When it is time to experience, it is no time to exhaust, and when it is time to exhaust, it is no time to experience. Experience is at a different time and exhaustion is at a different time. Their respective times are entirely separate. Hence so.
Q. 74. Bhante! For the infernal beings, is it correct to say that what is time for karma experience is also time for Its exhaustion, and vice versa?
A. 74. No, this is not correct.
Q. 75. Bhante! Why do you say so?
A. 75. Gautama! I say so because when it is time for the infernal being to experience, it is not the time for exhaustion, and when it is time for exhaustion, it is not the time for experience. Experience (by the infernal beings) is at a different time, and exhaustion is at a different time. Their respective times are entirely separate. Hence so, and this holds good, till the Vaimānikas.
Notes (based on commentary of Abhayadeva Sūri):
(There is no commentary available for this section).