Neti-neti; 6 Definition(s)
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General definition (in Hinduism)
Neti neti is a Sanskrit expression which means “not this, not this”, or “neither this, nor that” (neti is sandhi from na iti “not so”). It is the method of Vedic analysis of negation. It is a keynote of Vedic inquiry. With its aid the Jnani negates identification with all things of this world which is not the Atman, in this way he negates the Anatman. Through this gradual process he negates the mind and transcends all worldly experiences that are negated till nothing remains but the Self. He attains union with the Absolute by denying the body, name, form, intellect, senses and all limiting adjuncts and discovers what remains, the true “I” alone.
Neti neti negates all descriptions about the Ultimate Reality but not the Reality itself. Inuitive interpretation of uncertainty principle can be expressed by "Neti neti" that annihilates ego and the world as non-self (Anatman), it annihilates our sense of self altogether.
Adi Shankara was one of the foremost Advaita philosophers who advocated the neti-neti approach. In his commentary on Gaudapada’s Karika, he explains that Brahman is free from adjuncts and the function of neti neti is to remove the obstructions produced by ignorance. His disciple, Sureshvara, further explains that the negation, neti neti, does not have negation as its purpose, it purports identity.Source: WikiPedia: Hinduism
Neti-neti means "not this, not this." Whenever a thought or feeling which is not the goal of the meditation — that is, which is not the soul, the inner self — occurs to the mind, the meditator simply says, "Not this, not this," and dismisses the thought, image, concept, sound, or sense distraction.
Any thought, any feeling, is discarded — patiently discarded — again and again if necessary, until the mind is clear and the soul is revealed.Source: A World of Yoga: Hinduism
Neti-neti is roughly defined as “not this, not this,” and appears first in an Upanishad. Shankara advocates it as a method of inquiry, and modern non-dual teachers recommend it as well. It means finding out what you are not: I am not this body, I am not these emotions, I am not this thought or experience, etc. And it is said that finding out what you are not leads to the knowledge of what you are.
And that’s true in one regard. Atma – the Self – can be identified only by negation of the anatma – the not-Self. The Self has no qualities or attributes of its own by which it can be identified. The Self is not an object. So the theory has it that if you negate everything that is not-Self, you are left with only the Self.Source: What Never Changes: Vedanta
The expression, neti neti, literally means “neither this, nor that” or “not this and not that”. In the first level this is the rejection of a separate self or ego. It is a rejection of fragmentation or split from universal spirit which is embedded within all beings and things. Thus “neti neti”, as a statement, means that we are not anything separate as in the disparate dualistic framework of a separate “I/ it” subject/object duality context (versus the sacred non-dual and transpersonal “I-Thou” context) wherein we identify as a finite expression integrally part of a boundless spirit (like a wave on the ocean). We are neither the ego, nor are we nothing at all. We are neither the all, nor nothing at all. Neither just this observer, nor just that (the observed). Neither eternal nor finite, neither eternalism nor nihilism, neither empty nor solid.
Rather on a higher level neti-neti means that we are neither just Brahman separate from the world, nor just the world, neither exclusively absolute nor exclusively relative, but both/and much more. When Brahman is truly realized, it is not separate from atman (self), but this is not the glorified ego which is the common illusion. This Self is not an independent entity. The separate self (atman) is not the universal Self (Brahman) by definition. Brahman permeates and contains all, both, while it is known as the essence of all. All pervasive it can not be isolated. Once realized not as a separate object, but one's true self, only then does atman and brahman become one. Taken as a whole, Brahman transforms the delusion of a separate self (atman). As such neti-neti is not just a negation, isolation, refutation, nor exclusion, but more so, a great affirmation of sacred non-dual universal presence.
Just pretend that the world doesn't exist, that life is an illusion (maya), numb yourself out to it, the body, the senses, and sever all bonds to it, and then all your problems will go away. All suffering is just an illusion, war, torture, disease, poverty etc., is an illusion. In short rationalize out suffering and rationalize in Brahman. “Neti-neti” does not mean that we are not this body, only that we are more than this body—We are the Long Body—vast Being, the Big Universal Unbiased Boundless Mind in which all things see from vast space and vast time as a synchronistic and holographic simultaneity are interdependent, interconnected, and mutually co-emerging. Here everything is alive an vivid.Source: Rainbow Body: Neti Neti: Neither This, Nor That
General definition (in Buddhism)
In Jnana Yoga and Advaita Vedanta, “neti neti” may be a chant or mantra, meaning “not this, not this”, or “neither this, nor that.” It is an analytical process for getting some sense for what something is by clearly seeing what it is not.Source: Metta Refuge: Buddhism
Neti! Neti!", translated as "Not this! Not this!" or "Neither this! Nor that!" appears in several ancient Indian texts including the Upanishads which formed the early foundation for Buddhsim, Jainism, and Hinduism.
The purpose of this ancient practice is to deny, through continual and progressive effort, everything that is not of Self: in Indian terms, Atman; in Buddhist terms, Essential Self, Dharma, or absolute reality.Source: The Zen Buddhist Order of Hsu Yun: Dharma Essays
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Vivekachudamani (by Shankara)
A History of Indian Philosophy Volume 1 (by Surendranath Dasgupta)
Part 7 - Unknowability of Brahman and the Negative Method < [Chapter III - The Earlier Upaniṣads (700 B.c.— 600 B.c.)]
Part 9 - Upaniṣads and Buddhism < [Chapter V - Buddhist Philosophy]
Part 2 - Growth of the Philosophic Literature < [Chapter IV - General Observations On The Systems Of Indian Philosophy]
Brihad Bhagavatamrita (by Śrīla Sanātana Gosvāmī)
Yoga Vasistha [English], Volume 1-4 (by Vihari-Lala Mitra)
Chapter LXXII - Answers to the remaining questions < [Book VI - Nirvana prakarana part 1 (nirvana prakarana)]
Chapter CXXI - Continuation of the same < [Book VI - Nirvana prakarana part 1 (nirvana prakarana)]
Chapter XXXI - Sermon on the means of attaining the nirvana (extinction) < [Book VII - Nirvana prakarana part 2 (nirvana prakarana)]
The Brihadaranyaka Upanishad (by Swāmī Mādhavānanda)
Section II - Yajnavalkya and Artabhaga < [Chapter III]
Section III - The Two Forms of Brahman < [Chapter II]
Preceptors of Advaita (by T. M. P. Mahadevan)