Sutta 10: The Debate with Satyakani Nirgrantha

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[0715a28] Thus have I heard:

At one time, the Buddha (佛 [fu]) was in the forest outside the city of Vaisali (毘舍離城 [pi she li cheng]), with a great assembly of five hundred bhikkhus (比丘 [bi qiu]).

[0715a28] wén rú shì:

yī shí, fú zài pí shě lí chéng wài lín zhōng, yǔ dà bǐ qiū zhòng wǔ bǎi rén jù.

[0715a28] wen ru shi:

yi shi, fu zai pi she li cheng wai lin zhong, yu da bi qiu zhong wu bai ren ju.

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[0715a29] At that time, Venerable Horse-Master (尊者馬師 [zun zhe ma shi]), when it was time, put on his robes and took his bowl, and entered the city to beg for food. At this time, Satyakani Nirgrantha (薩遮尼健子 [sa zhe ni jian zi]) saw Horse-Master (馬師 [ma shi]) coming from afar, and immediately went to him and said: "What meaning does your teacher explain? What instructions does he give? What precepts does he use to teach the Dharma (法 [fa]) to his disciples?"

[0715a29] ěr shí, zūn zhě mǎ shī dào shí, zhe yī chí bō, rù chéng qǐ shí. shì shí, sà zhē ní jiàn zi yáo jiàn mǎ shī lái, jí wǎng yǔ mǎ shī yuē: “rǔ shī shuō hé děng yì? yǒu hé jiào xùn? yǐ hé jiào jiè xiàng dì zi shuō fǎ hū?”

[0715a29] er shi, zun zhe ma shi dao shi, zhe yi chi bo, ru cheng qi shi. shi shi, sa zhe ni jian zi yao jian ma shi lai, ji wang yu ma shi yue: "ru shi shuo he deng yi? you he jiao xun? yi he jiao jie xiang di zi shuo fa hu?"

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[0715b04] Horse-Master (馬師 [ma shi]) replied: "Brahmin (梵志 [fan zhi])! Form (色 [se]) is impermanent. What is impermanent is suffering. What is suffering is non-self. What is non-self is empty. What is empty is not mine, and I am not of it. This is what the wise person learns. Feeling (痛 [tong]), perception (想 [xiang]), mental formations (行 [xing]), and consciousness (識 [shi]) are impermanent. These five aggregates of clinging (五盛陰 [wu sheng yin]) that are impermanent are suffering. What is suffering is non-self. What is non-self is empty. What is empty is not mine, and I am not of it. If you wish to know, my teacher's instructions are like this, and he teaches such meaning to his disciples."

[0715b04] mǎ shī bào yuē: “fàn zhì! sè zhě wú cháng, wú cháng zhě jí shì kǔ, kǔ zhě jí shì wú wǒ, wú wǒ zhě jí shì kōng yě, kōng zhě bǐ bù wǒ yǒu, wǒ fēi bǐ yǒu. rú shì zhě zhì rén zhī suǒ xué yě. tòng,, xiǎng,, xíng,, shí wú cháng, cǐ wǔ shèng yīn wú cháng zhě jí shì kǔ, kǔ zhě jí shì wú wǒ, wú wǒ zhě jí shì kōng, kōng zhě bǐ fēi wǒ yǒu, wǒ fēi bǐ yǒu. qīng yù zhī zhě, wǒ shī jiào jiè qí yì rú shì, yǔ zhū dì zi shuō rú shì yì.”

[0715b04] ma shi bao yue: "fan zhi! se zhe wu chang, wu chang zhe ji shi ku, ku zhe ji shi wu wo, wu wo zhe ji shi kong ye, kong zhe bi bu wo you, wo fei bi you. ru shi zhe zhi ren zhi suo xue ye. tong,, xiang,, xing,, shi wu chang, ci wu sheng yin wu chang zhe ji shi ku, ku zhe ji shi wu wo, wu wo zhe ji shi kong, kong zhe bi fei wo you, wo fei bi you. qing yu zhi zhe, wo shi jiao jie qi yi ru shi, yu zhu di zi shuo ru shi yi."

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[0715b10] At that time, Nirgrantha (尼健子 [ni jian zi]) covered his ears with both hands and said: "Stop! Stop! Horse-Master (馬師 [ma shi])! I do not like to hear these words. If ascetic Gautama (瞿曇沙門 [qu tan sha men]) has such a teaching, I truly do not like to hear it. Why is that? According to my view, form (色 [se]) is permanent. According to the ascetic's view, it is impermanent. When will I see ascetic Gautama (沙門瞿曇 [sha men qu tan]) and debate with him, and remove the inverted mind of ascetic Gautama (沙門瞿曇 [sha men qu tan])?"

[0715b10] shì shí, ní jiàn zi yǐ liǎng shǒu yǎn ěr, ér zuò shì yán: “zhǐ! zhǐ! mǎ shī! wǒ bù lè wén cǐ yǔ. shè qú tán shā mén yǒu cǐ jiào zhě, wǒ shí bù lè wén. suǒ yǐ rán zhě, rú wǒ yì zhě sè zhě shì cháng, shā mén yì zhě wú cháng. hé rì dāng jiàn shā mén qú tán yǔ gòng lùn yì, dāng chú shā mén qú tán diān dào zhī xīn.”

[0715b10] shi shi, ni jian zi yi liang shou yan er, er zuo shi yan: "zhi! zhi! ma shi! wo bu le wen ci yu. she qu tan sha men you ci jiao zhe, wo shi bu le wen. suo yi ran zhe, ru wo yi zhe se zhe shi chang, sha men yi zhe wu chang. he ri dang jian sha men qu tan yu gong lun yi, dang chu sha men qu tan dian dao zhi xin."

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[0715b15] At that time, five hundred youths from the city of Vaisali (毘舍離城 [pi she li cheng]) gathered in one place, wishing to discuss something. At that time, Nirgrantha (尼健子 [ni jian zi]) went to the five hundred youths and said to them: "You all come, let us go together to ascetic Gautama's (沙門瞿曇 [sha men qu tan]) abode. Why is that? I wish to debate with ascetic Gautama (沙門瞿曇 [sha men qu tan]), so that he may see the path of right truth. What the ascetic says is that form (色 [se]) is impermanent, but according to my view, form (色 [se]) is permanent. It is like a strong man holding a long-haired sheep in his hand, leading it east or west as he pleases, without difficulty. I am also like this; when I debate with ascetic Gautama (沙門瞿曇 [sha men qu tan]), I can take or leave him as I please, without difficulty. It is like a fierce elephant, violent and with six tusks, playing in the deep mountains, without any difficulty. I am also like this; when I debate with him, there will be no difficulty. It is like two strong men holding a weak one and roasting him over a fire, turning him as they please, without difficulty. I will also have no difficulty debating with him. I can even harm an elephant in debate, let alone a human? Can I not make an elephant go east, west, south, or north? Is that not like a human? Now, this lecture hall's beams and pillars are inanimate objects, yet I can make them move and turn, let alone debating with a person and winning. I will make his blood flow from his face and he will die."

[0715b15] ěr shí, pí shě lí chéng wǔ bǎi tóng zi jí zài yī chù, yù yǒu suǒ lùn. shì shí, ní jiàn zi wǎng zhì wǔ bǎi tóng zi suǒ, yǔ tóng zi yuē: “rǔ děng jiē lái, gòng zhì shā mén qú tán suǒ. suǒ yǐ rán zhě, yì yù yǔ bǐ shā mén qú tán gòng lùn, shǐ bǐ shā mén dé jiàn zhèng dì zhī dào. shā mén suǒ shuō zhě sè zhě wú cháng, rú wǒ yì zhě sè zhě shì cháng. yóu rú lì shì shǒu zhí zhǎng máo zhī yáng, suí yì jiāng dōng xī, yì wú yí nán. wǒ jīn yì fù rú shì, yǔ bǐ shā mén qú tán lùn yì, suí wǒ zhuō shě ér wú yí nán. yóu rú měng xiàng xiōng bào ér yǒu liù yá, zài shēn shān zhōng xì, yì wú suǒ nán. wǒ jīn yì fù rú shì, yǔ bǐ lùn yì yì wú yí nán. yóu rú liǎng jiàn zhàng fū ér zhuō yī liè zhě, zài huǒ shàng zhì, suí yì zhuǎn cè, yì wú yí nán. wǒ jīn yǔ bǐ lùn yì yì wú yí nán. wǒ lùn yì zhōng shàng néng hài xiàng, hé kuàng rén hū? yì néng shǐ xiàng dōng,, xī,, nán,, běi, qǐ bù rú rén hū? jīn cǐ jiǎng táng liáng zhù wú qíng zhī wù, shàng néng shǐ yí zhuǎn, hé kuàng yǔ rén gòng lùn néng shèng, wǒ shǐ bǐ xuè cóng miàn kǒng chū ér mìng zhōng.”

[0715b15] er shi, pi she li cheng wu bai tong zi ji zai yi chu, yu you suo lun. shi shi, ni jian zi wang zhi wu bai tong zi suo, yu tong zi yue: "ru deng jie lai, gong zhi sha men qu tan suo. suo yi ran zhe, yi yu yu bi sha men qu tan gong lun, shi bi sha men de jian zheng di zhi dao. sha men suo shuo zhe se zhe wu chang, ru wo yi zhe se zhe shi chang. you ru li shi shou zhi zhang mao zhi yang, sui yi jiang dong xi, yi wu yi nan. wo jin yi fu ru shi, yu bi sha men qu tan lun yi, sui wo zhuo she er wu yi nan. you ru meng xiang xiong bao er you liu ya, zai shen shan zhong xi, yi wu suo nan. wo jin yi fu ru shi, yu bi lun yi yi wu yi nan. you ru liang jian zhang fu er zhuo yi lie zhe, zai huo shang zhi, sui yi zhuan ce, yi wu yi nan. wo jin yu bi lun yi yi wu yi nan. wo lun yi zhong shang neng hai xiang, he kuang ren hu? yi neng shi xiang dong,, xi,, nan,, bei, qi bu ru ren hu? jin ci jiang tang liang zhu wu qing zhi wu, shang neng shi yi zhuan, he kuang yu ren gong lun neng sheng, wo shi bi xue cong mian kong chu er ming zhong."

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[0715c02] Among them, some youths said: "Nirgrantha (尼健子 [ni jian zi]) will never be able to debate with the ascetic. I am only afraid that ascetic Gautama (沙門瞿曇 [sha men qu tan]) will debate with Nirgrantha (尼健子 [ni jian zi])." Others said: "The ascetic will not debate with Nirgrantha (尼健子 [ni jian zi]); Nirgrantha (尼健子 [ni jian zi]) can debate with the ascetic." At this time, Nirgrantha (尼健子 [ni jian zi]) then thought: "If what ascetic Gautama (沙門瞿曇 [sha men qu tan]) says is like Bhikkhu Horse-Master (馬師比丘 [ma shi bi qiu]), then it is enough to compete. If there is any meaning, I will know it when I hear it."

[0715c02] qí zhōng huò yǒu tóng zi ér zuò shì yán: “ní jiàn zi zhōng bù néng yǔ shā mén lùn yì, dàn kǒng shā mén qú tán yǔ ní jiàn zi lùn yì ěr.” huò yǒu zuò shì shuō: “shā mén bù yǔ ní jiàn zi lùn yì, ní jiàn zi néng yǔ shā mén gòng lùn yì.” shì shí, ní jiàn zi biàn zuò shì niàn: “shè lìng shā mén qú tán suǒ shuō rú mǎ shī bǐ qiū zhě, zú dé xiāng chóu. ruò yǒu yì zhě, wén yǐ dāng zhī.”

[0715c02] qi zhong huo you tong zi er zuo shi yan: "ni jian zi zhong bu neng yu sha men lun yi, dan kong sha men qu tan yu ni jian zi lun yi er." huo you zuo shi shuo: "sha men bu yu ni jian zi lun yi, ni jian zi neng yu sha men gong lun yi." shi shi, ni jian zi bian zuo shi nian: "she ling sha men qu tan suo shuo ru ma shi bi qiu zhe, zu de xiang chou. ruo you yi zhe, wen yi dang zhi."

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[0715c08] At this time, Nirgrantha (尼健子 [ni jian zi]), with five hundred youths surrounding him, went to the World-Honored One's (世尊 [shi zun]) abode, exchanged greetings, and sat down to one side. Then, Nirgrantha (尼健子 [ni jian zi]) said to the World-Honored One (世尊 [shi zun]): "How is it, Gautama (瞿曇 [qu tan])! What teachings do you give? What precepts do you use to instruct your disciples?"

[0715c08] shì shí, ní jiàn zi jiāng wǔ bǎi tóng zi, qián hòu wéi rào, wǎng zhì shì zūn suǒ, gòng xiāng wèn xùn, zài yī miàn zuò. shì shí, ní jiàn zi bái shì zūn yán: “yún hé, qú tán! yǒu hé jiào jiè, yǐ hé jiào jiè xùn zhū dì zi?”

[0715c08] shi shi, ni jian zi jiang wu bai tong zi, qian hou wei rao, wang zhi shi zun suo, gong xiang wen xun, zai yi mian zuo. shi shi, ni jian zi bai shi zun yan: "yun he, qu tan! you he jiao jie, yi he jiao jie xun zhu di zi?"

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[0715c11] The Buddha (佛 [fu]) said to Nirgrantha (尼健子 [ni jian zi]): "What I teach is that form (色 [se]) is impermanent. What is impermanent is suffering. What is suffering is non-self. What is non-self is empty. What is empty is not mine, and I am not of it. Feeling (痛 [tong]), perception (想 [xiang]), mental formations (行 [xing]), consciousness (識 [shi]), and the five aggregates of clinging (五盛陰 [wu sheng yin]) are all impermanent. What is impermanent is suffering. What is suffering is non-self. What is non-self is empty. What is empty is not mine, and I am not of it. The meaning of my teaching is like this."

[0715c11] fú gào ní jiàn zi: “wǒ zhī suǒ shuō, sè zhě wú cháng, wú cháng jí shì kǔ, kǔ zhě jí shì wú wǒ, wú wǒ zhě jí shì kōng, kōng zhě bǐ fēi wǒ yǒu, wǒ fēi bǐ yǒu； tòng,, xiǎng,, xíng,, shí jí wǔ shèng yīn jiē xī wú cháng, wú cháng jí shì kǔ, kǔ zhě wú wǒ, wú wǒ zhě shì kōng, kōng zhě bǐ fēi wǒ yǒu, wǒ fēi bǐ yǒu. wǒ zhī jiào jiè qí yì rú shì.”

[0715c11] fu gao ni jian zi: "wo zhi suo shuo, se zhe wu chang, wu chang ji shi ku, ku zhe ji shi wu wo, wu wo zhe ji shi kong, kong zhe bi fei wo you, wo fei bi you; tong,, xiang,, xing,, shi ji wu sheng yin jie xi wu chang, wu chang ji shi ku, ku zhe wu wo, wu wo zhe shi kong, kong zhe bi fei wo you, wo fei bi you. wo zhi jiao jie qi yi ru shi."

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[0715c16] Nirgrantha (尼健子 [ni jian zi]) replied: "I do not like to hear this meaning. Why is that? According to my understanding, form (色 [se]) is permanent."

[0715c16] ní jiàn zi bào yuē: “wǒ bù lè wén cǐ yì. suǒ yǐ rán zhě, rú wǒ suǒ jiě yì, sè zhě shì cháng.”

[0715c16] ni jian zi bao yue: "wo bu le wen ci yi. suo yi ran zhe, ru wo suo jie yi, se zhe shi chang."

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[0715c18] The World-Honored One (世尊 [shi zun]) said: "You should now focus your mind and contemplate the subtle principle, and then speak."

[0715c18] shì zūn gào yuē: “rǔ jīn qiě zhuān xīn yì, sī wéi miào lǐ, rán hòu shuō zhī.”

[0715c18] shi zun gao yue: "ru jin qie zhuan xin yi, si wei miao li, ran hou shuo zhi."

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[0715c19] Nirgrantha (尼健子 [ni jian zi]) replied: "What I say now is that form (色 [se]) is permanent, and these five hundred youths also agree with this meaning."

[0715c19] ní jiàn zi bào yuē: “wǒ jīn suǒ shuō sè zhě shì cháng, cǐ wǔ bǎi tóng zi qí yì yì ěr.”

[0715c19] ni jian zi bao yue: "wo jin suo shuo se zhe shi chang, ci wu bai tong zi qi yi yi er."

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[0715c20] The World-Honored One (世尊 [shi zun]) said: "What you say now is that form (色 [se]) is permanent, and these five hundred youths also agree with this meaning." The World-Honored One (世尊 [shi zun]) said: "You should now speak with your own eloquence. Why do you bring in these five hundred people?"

[0715c20] shì zūn gào yuē: “rǔ jīn suǒ shuō sè zhě shì cháng, cǐ wǔ bǎi tóng zi qí yì yì ěr.” shì zūn gào yuē: “rǔ jīn yǐ jǐ zhī biàn shuō zhī, hé wèi yǐn bǐ wǔ bǎi rén hū?”

[0715c20] shi zun gao yue: "ru jin suo shuo se zhe shi chang, ci wu bai tong zi qi yi yi er." shi zun gao yue: "ru jin yi ji zhi bian shuo zhi, he wei yin bi wu bai ren hu?"

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[0715c23] Nirgrantha (尼健子 [ni jian zi]) replied: "I now say that form (色 [se]) is permanent. What does the ascetic wish to discuss?"

[0715c23] ní jiàn zi bào yuē: “wǒ jīn shuō sè shì cháng, shā mén yù hé děng yán lùn?”

[0715c23] ni jian zi bao yue: "wo jin shuo se shi chang, sha men yu he deng yan lun?"

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[0715c24] The World-Honored One (世尊 [shi zun]) said: "I now say that form (色 [se]) is impermanent, and also non-self. This form (色 [se]) exists as a temporary combination; it has no reality, no solidity, no permanence, like a snowdrift; it is subject to destruction, it is subject to change. Yet you now say that form (色 [se]) is permanent. I will ask you in return, and you may answer as you wish. How is it, Nirgrantha (尼健子 [ni jian zi])! Does a wheel-turning holy king (轉輪聖王 [zhuan lun sheng wang]) have freedom in his own country? And can that great king release those who should not be released, and bind those who should not be bound?"

[0715c24] shì zūn gào yuē: “wǒ jīn shuō sè zhě wú cháng, yì fù wú wǒ. quán zhà hé shù yǒu cǐ sè zhě, yì wú zhēn shí, wú gù,, wú láo yì rú xuě bó, shì děng mó miè zhī fǎ, shì biàn yì zhī fǎ. rǔ jīn fāng shuō sè zhě shì cháng, wǒ hái wèn rǔ, suí yì bào wǒ. yún hé, ní jiàn zi! zhuǎn lún shèng wáng hái yú jǐ guó dé zì zài bù hū? yòu bǐ dà wáng bù yīng tuō zhě ér tuō zhī, bù yīng xì zhě ér xì zhī, kě dé ěr hū?”

[0715c24] shi zun gao yue: "wo jin shuo se zhe wu chang, yi fu wu wo. quan zha he shu you ci se zhe, yi wu zhen shi, wu gu,, wu lao yi ru xue bo, shi deng mo mie zhi fa, shi bian yi zhi fa. ru jin fang shuo se zhe shi chang, wo hai wen ru, sui yi bao wo. yun he, ni jian zi! zhuan lun sheng wang hai yu ji guo de zi zai bu hu? you bi da wang bu ying tuo zhe er tuo zhi, bu ying xi zhe er xi zhi, ke de er hu?"

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[0716a02] Nirgrantha (尼健子 [ni jian zi]) replied: "This holy king (聖王 [sheng wang]) has such power of freedom. He can kill those who should not be killed, and bind those who should not be bound."

[0716a02] ní jiàn zi bào yuē: “cǐ shèng wáng yǒu cǐ zì zài zhī lì, bù yīng shā zhě néng shā zhī, bù yīng xì zhě néng xì zhī.”

[0716a02] ni jian zi bao yue: "ci sheng wang you ci zi zai zhi li, bu ying sha zhe neng sha zhi, bu ying xi zhe neng xi zhi."

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[0716a04] The World-Honored One (世尊 [shi zun]) said: "How is it, Nirgrantha (尼健子 [ni jian zi])! Will a wheel-turning holy king (轉輪聖王 [zhuan lun sheng wang]) also grow old? With white hair, wrinkled face, and soiled clothes?" At this time, Nirgrantha (尼健子 [ni jian zi]) remained silent and did not reply. The World-Honored One (世尊 [shi zun]) asked him three times, and he remained silent and did not reply three times. At this time, Mijixingang Lishi (密跡金剛力士 [mi ji jin gang li shi]), holding a vajra (金剛 [jin gang]) pestle in his hand, in the sky, said: "If you do not answer the debater now, your head will be split into seven pieces before the Tathagata (如來 [ru lai])."

[0716a04] shì zūn gào yuē: “yún hé, ní jiàn zi! zhuǎn lún shèng wáng dāng fù lǎo hū? tóu bái,, miàn zhòu,, yī shang gòu bèn?” shì shí, ní jiàn zi mò rán bù bào. shì zūn zài sān wèn zhī, bǐ yì zài sān mò rán bù bào. shì shí, mì jī jīn gāng lì shì shǒu zhí jīn gāng zhī chǔ, zài xū kōng zhōng ér gào zhī yuē: “rǔ jīn bù bào lùn zhě, yú rú lái qián pò rǔ tóu zuò qī fēn.”

[0716a04] shi zun gao yue: "yun he, ni jian zi! zhuan lun sheng wang dang fu lao hu? tou bai,, mian zhou,, yi shang gou ben?" shi shi, ni jian zi mo ran bu bao. shi zun zai san wen zhi, bi yi zai san mo ran bu bao. shi shi, mi ji jin gang li shi shou zhi jin gang zhi chu, zai xu kong zhong er gao zhi yue: "ru jin bu bao lun zhe, yu ru lai qian po ru tou zuo qi fen."

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[0716a09] Then, the World-Honored One (世尊 [shi zun]) said to Nirgrantha (尼健子 [ni jian zi]): "You should now look into the sky."

[0716a09] ěr shí, shì zūn gào ní jiàn zi yuē: “rǔ jīn guān xū kōng zhōng.”

[0716a09] er shi, shi zun gao ni jian zi yue: "ru jin guan xu kong zhong."

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[0716a10] At this time, Nirgrantha (尼健子 [ni jian zi]) looked up into the sky and saw Mijixingang Lishi (密跡金剛力士 [mi ji jin gang li shi]), and also heard the voice in the sky say: "If you do not answer the Tathagata's (如來 [ru lai]) question, your head will be split into seven pieces." Having seen this, he was startled and terrified, with his hair standing on end, and he said to the World-Honored One (世尊 [shi zun]): "I only wish, Gautama (瞿曇 [qu tan]), that you would save me. I will now answer the debate."

[0716a10] shì shí, ní jiàn zi yǎng guān kōng zhōng, jiàn mì jī jīn gāng lì shì, yòu wén kōng zhōng yǔ: “shè rǔ bù bào rú lái lùn zhě, dāng pò rǔ tóu zuò qī fēn.” jiàn yǐ jīng kǒng, yī máo jiē shù, bái shì zūn yán: “wéi yuàn qú tán dāng jiàn jiù jì, jīn gèng wèn lùn dāng chóu duì.”

[0716a10] shi shi, ni jian zi yang guan kong zhong, jian mi ji jin gang li shi, you wen kong zhong yu: "she ru bu bao ru lai lun zhe, dang po ru tou zuo qi fen." jian yi jing kong, yi mao jie shu, bai shi zun yan: "wei yuan qu tan dang jian jiu ji, jin geng wen lun dang chou dui."

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[0716a14] The World-Honored One (世尊 [shi zun]) said: "How is it, Nirgrantha (尼健子 [ni jian zi])! Will a wheel-turning holy king (轉輪聖王 [zhuan lun sheng wang]) also grow old? Will his hair turn white, his teeth fall out, his skin loosen, and his face wrinkle?"

[0716a14] shì zūn gào yuē: “yún hé, ní jiàn zi! zhuǎn lún shèng wáng dāng fù lǎo hū? yì dāng tóu bái,, chǐ luò,, pí huǎn,, miàn zhòu yé?”

[0716a14] shi zun gao yue: "yun he, ni jian zi! zhuan lun sheng wang dang fu lao hu? yi dang tou bai,, chi luo,, pi huan,, mian zhou ye?"

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[0716a16] Nirgrantha (尼健子 [ni jian zi]) replied: "Ascetic Gautama (沙門瞿曇 [sha men qu tan])! Although you say this, according to my view, form (色 [se]) is permanent."

[0716a16] ní jiàn zi bào yuē: “shā mén qú tán! suī yǒu cǐ yǔ, rú wǒ yì zhě, sè zhě shì cháng.”

[0716a16] ni jian zi bao yue: "sha men qu tan! sui you ci yu, ru wo yi zhe, se zhe shi chang."

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[0716a17] The World-Honored One (世尊 [shi zun]) said: "You should consider carefully before replying. What you said before and what you say now are not consistent in meaning. Just answer whether the holy king (聖王 [sheng wang]) will grow old? Will his hair turn white, his teeth fall out, his skin loosen, and his face wrinkle?"

[0716a17] shì zūn gào yuē: “rǔ shàn sī wéi ér hòu bào zhī, qián zhī yǔ hòu, yì bù xiāng yīng. dàn jù lùn shèng wáng dāng fù lǎo hū? yì dāng tóu bái,, chǐ luò,, pí huǎn,, miàn zhòu yé?”

[0716a17] shi zun gao yue: "ru shan si wei er hou bao zhi, qian zhi yu hou, yi bu xiang ying. dan ju lun sheng wang dang fu lao hu? yi dang tou bai,, chi luo,, pi huan,, mian zhou ye?"

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[0716a20] Nirgrantha (尼健子 [ni jian zi]) replied: "A wheel-turning holy king (轉輪聖王 [zhuan lun sheng wang]) is permitted to grow old."

The World-Honored One (世尊 [shi zun]) said: "A wheel-turning holy king (轉輪聖王 [zhuan lun sheng wang]) can always be free in his own country. Why can he not prevent old age, sickness, and death? I do not need old age, sickness, and death; I should be permanent. If one wishes it to be so, is that meaning valid?"

[0716a20] ní jiàn zi bào yuē: “zhuǎn lún shèng wáng xǔ shǐ lǎo.”

shì zūn gào yuē: “zhuǎn lún shèng wáng cháng néng yú jǐ guó dé zì yóu, hé yǐ gù bù néng què lǎo,, què bìng,, què sǐ? wǒ bù yòng lǎo,, bìng,, sǐ, wǒ shì cháng zhī yīng. yù shǐ rán zhě, qí yì kě hū?”

[0716a20] ni jian zi bao yue: "zhuan lun sheng wang xu shi lao."

shi zun gao yue: "zhuan lun sheng wang chang neng yu ji guo de zi you, he yi gu bu neng que lao,, que bing,, que si? wo bu yong lao,, bing,, si, wo shi chang zhi ying. yu shi ran zhe, qi yi ke hu?"

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[0716a23] At this time, Nirgrantha (尼健子 [ni jian zi]) remained silent and did not answer, filled with sorrow and unhappiness, completely silent. At this time, Nirgrantha's (尼健子 [ni jian zi]) body sweated, and his sweat stained his clothes, even penetrating his seat and reaching the ground.

[0716a23] shì shí, ní jiàn zi mò rán bù duì, chóu yōu bù lè, jì rán bù yǔ. shì shí, ní jiàn zi shēn tǐ hàn chū, hàn wū yī shang, yì chè zuò chù, nǎi zhì yú de.

[0716a23] shi shi, ni jian zi mo ran bu dui, chou you bu le, ji ran bu yu. shi shi, ni jian zi shen ti han chu, han wu yi shang, yi che zuo chu, nai zhi yu de.

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[0716a26] The World-Honored One (世尊 [shi zun]) said: "Nirgrantha (尼健子 [ni jian zi])! You roared like a lion in the great assembly: 'You youths, come with me to Gautama's (瞿曇 [qu tan]) abode, and debate with him. We will subdue him, like holding a long-haired sheep, leading it east or west as we please, without difficulty. Also like a great elephant entering deep water, wandering freely as it pleases, without fear. Also like two strong men holding a weak one and roasting him over a fire, turning him as they please.' Furthermore, you said: 'I can always defeat a great elephant in debate. These beams and pillars, grass and wood are all inanimate objects, yet in debate with them, I can make them bend, stretch, lower, or raise, and also make sweat flow from their armpits.'"

[0716a26] shì zūn gào yuē: “ní jiàn zi! rǔ zài dà zhòng zhōng ér shī zi hǒu: ‘rǔ děng tóng zi gòng wǒ zhì qú tán suǒ, yǔ gòng lùn yì, dāng jiàng fú, rú zhuō zhǎng máo zhī yáng, suí yì dōng xī, ér wú yí nán. yì rú dà xiàng rù shēn shuǐ zhōng, suí yì zì yóu, yì wú suǒ wèi. yì rú liǎng jiàn zhàng fū zhuō yī liè zhě, zài huǒ shàng zhì, suí yì zhuǎn cè.’ yòu fù rǔ shuō: ‘wǒ cháng néng lùn hài dà xiàng, rú cǐ liáng zhù cǎo mù sī jiē wú qíng, yǔ gòng lùn yì néng shǐ qū shēn dī yǎng, yì néng shǐ yè xià liú hàn.’ ”

[0716a26] shi zun gao yue: "ni jian zi! ru zai da zhong zhong er shi zi hou: 'ru deng tong zi gong wo zhi qu tan suo, yu gong lun yi, dang jiang fu, ru zhuo zhang mao zhi yang, sui yi dong xi, er wu yi nan. yi ru da xiang ru shen shui zhong, sui yi zi you, yi wu suo wei. yi ru liang jian zhang fu zhuo yi lie zhe, zai huo shang zhi, sui yi zhuan ce.' you fu ru shuo: 'wo chang neng lun hai da xiang, ru ci liang zhu cao mu si jie wu qing, yu gong lun yi neng shi qu shen di yang, yi neng shi ye xia liu han.' "

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[0716b04] At that time, the World-Honored One (世尊 [shi zun]) lifted his three robes and showed them to Nirgrantha (尼健子 [ni jian zi]), saying: "You see that the Tathagata's (如來 [ru lai]) armpits have no sweat, yet you today have even more sweat, penetrating to the ground." At this time, Nirgrantha (尼健子 [ni jian zi]) again remained silent and did not answer.

[0716b04] ěr shí, shì zūn jǔ sān fǎ yī, shì ní jiàn zi yuē: “rǔ guān rú lái yè wú liú hàn, rán rǔ jīn rì fǎn gèng yǒu hàn, nǎi chè hū de.” shì shí, ní jiàn zi fù mò rán bù duì.

[0716b04] er shi, shi zun ju san fa yi, shi ni jian zi yue: "ru guan ru lai ye wu liu han, ran ru jin ri fan geng you han, nai che hu de." shi shi, ni jian zi fu mo ran bu dui.

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[0716b07] At that time, there was a youth named Toumo (頭摩 [tou mo]), who was among that assembly. At this time, Youth Toumo (頭摩童子 [tou mo tong zi]) said to the World-Honored One (世尊 [shi zun]): "I am now capable of performing something, and I also wish to speak."

[0716b07] ěr shí, yǒu tóng zi míng tóu mó,[rén-èr+(wáng/dà)] zài bǐ zhòng. shì shí, tóu mó tóng zi bái shì zūn yán: “wǒ jīn kān rèn yǒu suǒ shī xíng, yì yù suǒ shuō.”

[0716b07] er shi, you tong zi ming tou mo,[ren-er+(wang/da)] zai bi zhong. shi shi, tou mo tong zi bai shi zun yan: "wo jin kan ren you suo shi xing, yi yu suo shuo."

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[0716b09] The World-Honored One (世尊 [shi zun]) said: "Speak as you wish."

[0716b09] shì zūn gào yuē: “suí yì shuō zhī.”

[0716b09] shi zun gao yue: "sui yi shuo zhi."

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[0716b10] Youth Toumo (頭摩童子 [tou mo tong zi]) said to the Buddha (佛 [fu]): "It is like a good bathing pond not far from a village, but that bathing pond has many-legged worms. The villagers, men, women, and children, go to the bathing pond and take out these worms, each using tiles or stones to strike and break their hands and feet. Those worms will never be able to return to the water. This Nirgrantha (尼健子 [ni jian zi]) is also like this. At first, his intention was fierce, to debate with the Tathagata (如來 [ru lai]), with a mind filled with jealousy and arrogance. The Tathagata (如來 [ru lai]) has completely removed it, with nothing remaining. This Nirgrantha (尼健子 [ni jian zi]) will never again go to the Tathagata's (如來 [ru lai]) abode to debate."

[0716b10] tóu mó tóng zi bái fú yán: “yóu rú qù cūn luò bù yuǎn yǒu hǎo yù chí, rán bǐ yù chí yǒu chóng ráo jiǎo. rán cūn luò rén mín, nán nǚ dà xiǎo wǎng zhì yù chí suǒ, ér chū cǐ chóng, gè gè yǐ wǎ shí qǔ cǐ chóng, dǎ zhī shāng pò shǒu jiǎo, bǐ chóng yì yù hái rù shuǐ zhě, zhōng wú cǐ shì. cǐ ní jiàn zi yì fù rú shì, chū yì měng shèng, yǔ rú lái gòng lùn, xīn huái gòu yì, jiān bào jiāo màn. rú lái jǐn yǐ chú zhī, yǒng wú yǒu yú. cǐ ní jiàn zi gèng zhōng bù néng zhòng zhì rú lái suǒ ér gòng lùn yì.”

[0716b10] tou mo tong zi bai fu yan: "you ru qu cun luo bu yuan you hao yu chi, ran bi yu chi you chong rao jiao. ran cun luo ren min, nan nu da xiao wang zhi yu chi suo, er chu ci chong, ge ge yi wa shi qu ci chong, da zhi shang po shou jiao, bi chong yi yu hai ru shui zhe, zhong wu ci shi. ci ni jian zi yi fu ru shi, chu yi meng sheng, yu ru lai gong lun, xin huai gou yi, jian bao jiao man. ru lai jin yi chu zhi, yong wu you yu. ci ni jian zi geng zhong bu neng zhong zhi ru lai suo er gong lun yi."

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[0716b17] At this time, Nirgrantha (尼健子 [ni jian zi]) said to Youth Toumo (頭摩童子 [tou mo tong zi]): "You are now foolish and deluded, unable to distinguish truth from falsehood. I will not debate with you, but with ascetic Gautama (沙門瞿曇 [sha men qu tan])." At this time, Nirgrantha (尼健子 [ni jian zi]) said to the Buddha (佛 [fu]): "I only ask about the meaning, please explain further."

[0716b17] shì shí, ní jiàn zi yǔ tóu mó tóng zi yuē: “rǔ jīn yú huò, bù bié zhēn wěi, yì bù yǔ rǔ gòng lùn, nǎi yǔ shā mén qú tán gòng lùn.” shì shí, ní jiàn zi bái fú yán: “wéi wèn yì lǐ, dāng gèng shuō zhī.”

[0716b17] shi shi, ni jian zi yu tou mo tong zi yue: "ru jin yu huo, bu bie zhen wei, yi bu yu ru gong lun, nai yu sha men qu tan gong lun." shi shi, ni jian zi bai fu yan: "wei wen yi li, dang geng shuo zhi."

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[0716b20] The World-Honored One (世尊 [shi zun]) said: "How is it, Nirgrantha (尼健子 [ni jian zi])! If a wheel-turning holy king (轉輪聖王 [zhuan lun sheng wang]) wishes that old age, sickness, and death do not come to him, can he achieve that? Can that great holy king (聖大王 [sheng da wang]) fulfill this wish?"

[0716b20] shì zūn gào yuē: “yún hé, ní jiàn zi! zhuǎn lún shèng wáng yù shǐ lǎo,, bìng,, sǐ bù zhì, kě dé ěr hū? bǐ shèng dà wáng guǒ cǐ yuàn yé?”

[0716b20] shi zun gao yue: "yun he, ni jian zi! zhuan lun sheng wang yu shi lao,, bing,, si bu zhi, ke de er hu? bi sheng da wang guo ci yuan ye?"

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[0716b22] Nirgrantha (尼健子 [ni jian zi]) replied: "He cannot fulfill this wish."

[0716b22] ní jiàn zi bào yuē: “bù guǒ cǐ yuàn yě.”

[0716b22] ni jian zi bao yue: "bu guo ci yuan ye."

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[0716b23] "If one wishes to have this form (色 [se]), and wishes not to have this form (色 [se]), can it be fulfilled?"

[0716b23] “yù shǐ yǒu cǐ sè, yù shǐ wú cǐ sè, kě guǒ hū?”

[0716b23] "yu shi you ci se, yu shi wu ci se, ke guo hu?"

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[0716b24] Nirgrantha (尼健子 [ni jian zi]) replied: "No, Gautama (瞿曇 [qu tan])!"

[0716b24] ní jiàn zi bào yuē: “bù guǒ yě. qú tán! ”

[0716b24] ni jian zi bao yue: "bu guo ye. qu tan! "

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[0716b25] The World-Honored One (世尊 [shi zun]) said: "How is it, Nirgrantha (尼健子 [ni jian zi])! Is form (色 [se]) permanent, or impermanent?"

[0716b25] shì zūn gào yuē: “yún hé, ní jiàn zi! sè zhě shì cháng? wèi shì wú cháng?”

[0716b25] shi zun gao yue: "yun he, ni jian zi! se zhe shi chang? wei shi wu chang?"

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[0716b26] Nirgrantha (尼健子 [ni jian zi]) replied: "Form (色 [se]) is impermanent."

"If it is impermanent, and subject to change, do you then see this as 'mine,' or do you allow me to say 'I am of it'?"

[0716b26] ní jiàn zi bào yuē: “sè zhě wú cháng.”

“shè fù wú cháng, wèi biàn yì fǎ, rǔ fù jiàn cǐ shì wǒ, xǔ wǒ shì bǐ yǒu hū?”

[0716b26] ni jian zi bao yue: "se zhe wu chang."

"she fu wu chang, wei bian yi fa, ru fu jian ci shi wo, xu wo shi bi you hu?"

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[0716b28] He replied: "No, Gautama (瞿曇 [qu tan])!"

"Is feeling (痛 [tong]), perception (想 [xiang]), mental formations (行 [xing]), consciousness (識 [shi]) permanent, or impermanent?"

[0716b28] duì yuē: “bù yě. qú tán! ”

“tòng,, xiǎng,, xíng,, shí wèi shì cháng? wèi shì fēi cháng?”

[0716b28] dui yue: "bu ye. qu tan! "

"tong,, xiang,, xing,, shi wei shi chang? wei shi fei chang?"

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[0716b29] He replied: "Impermanent."

The World-Honored One (世尊 [shi zun]) said: "If it is impermanent, and subject to change, do you then see it as existing?"

[0716b29] duì yuē: “wú cháng.”

shì zūn gào yuē: “shè fù wú cháng, wèi biàn yì zhī fǎ, rǔ pō jiàn yǒu hū?”

[0716b29] dui yue: "wu chang."

shi zun gao yue: "she fu wu chang, wei bian yi zhi fa, ru po jian you hu?"

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[0716c01] He replied: "No."

The World-Honored One (世尊 [shi zun]) said: "Are these five aggregates of clinging (五盛陰 [wu sheng yin]) permanent or impermanent?"

[0716c01] duì yuē: “wú yě.”

shì zūn gào yuē: “cǐ wǔ shèng yīn shì cháng,, wú cháng yě?”

[0716c01] dui yue: "wu ye."

shi zun gao yue: "ci wu sheng yin shi chang,, wu chang ye?"

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[0716c02] Nirgrantha (尼健子 [ni jian zi]) replied: "Impermanent."

The Buddha (佛 [fu]) said: "If they are impermanent, and subject to change, do you then see them as existing?"

[0716c02] ní jiàn zi bào yuē: “wú cháng yě.”

fú yán: “shè fù wú cháng, wèi biàn yì fǎ, rǔ pō jiàn yǒu hū?”

[0716c02] ni jian zi bao yue: "wu chang ye."

fu yan: "she fu wu chang, wei bian yi fa, ru po jian you hu?"

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[0716c03] He replied: "No."

[0716c03] duì yuē: “wú yě.”

[0716c03] dui yue: "wu ye."

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[0716c04] "How is it, Nirgrantha (尼健子 [ni jian zi])! You say it is permanent. Does this principle not contradict the meaning?"

[0716c04] “yún hé, ní jiàn zi! rǔ yán shì cháng, cǐ lǐ bù yǔ yì xiāng wéi hū?”

[0716c04] "yun he, ni jian zi! ru yan shi chang, ci li bu yu yi xiang wei hu?"

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[0716c05] At this time, Nirgrantha (尼健子 [ni jian zi]) said to the World-Honored One (世尊 [shi zun]): "I was ignorant and foolish, unable to discern the truth, and thus I harbored this thought, debating with Gautama (瞿曇 [qu tan]), saying that form (色 [se]) is permanent. Is it like a fierce lion seeing a person from afar, having a fear in its heart? Never! Today, the Tathagata (如來 [ru lai]) is also like this, without any trace. I was deluded and mad, not yet understanding the profound meaning, and thus dared to provoke. What ascetic Gautama (沙門瞿曇 [sha men qu tan]) has said is truly profound, like a blind person gaining sight, a deaf person hearing clearly, a lost person seeing the way, and a person without eyes seeing forms. Ascetic Gautama (沙門瞿曇 [sha men qu tan]) is also like this, explaining the Dharma (法 [fa]) with countless skillful means. I now take refuge in ascetic Gautama (沙門瞿曇 [sha men qu tan]), the Dharma (法 [fa]), and the bhikkhu Sangha (比丘僧 [bi qiu seng]). From now on, for the rest of my life, I ask to be a Upasaka (優婆塞 [you po sai]), and I will not kill living beings. I only wish, Gautama (瞿曇 [qu tan]) and the bhikkhu Sangha (比丘僧 [bi qiu seng])! that you would accept my invitation. I wish to offer a meal to the Buddha (佛 [fu]) and the bhikkhu Sangha (比丘僧 [bi qiu seng])." At that time, the World-Honored One (世尊 [shi zun]) remained silent and accepted the invitation.

[0716c05] shì shí, ní jiàn zi bái shì zūn yán: “wǒ jīn yú chī, bù bié zhēn dì, nǎi xìng cǐ huái, yǔ qú tán gòng lùn, yán sè shì cháng. yóu rú měng shòu shī zi yáo jiàn rén lái, yǒu kǒng bù xīn hū? zhōng wú cǐ shì! jīn rì rú lái yì fù rú shì, wú yǒu háo máo. wǒ jīn kuáng huò, wèi míng shēn yì, nǎi gǎn chù ráo. shā mén qú tán suǒ shuō guò duō, yóu rú máng zhě dé yǎn, lóng zhě chè tīng, mí zhě jiàn lù, wú mù jiàn sè. shā mén qú tán yì fù rú shì, wú shù fāng biàn ér wèi shuō fǎ. wǒ jīn zì guī shā mén qú tán,, fǎ,, bǐ qiū sēng, zì jīn yǐ hòu jǐn xíng shòu, tīng wèi yōu pó sāi, bù fù shā shēng, wéi yuàn qú tán jí bǐ qiū sēng! dāng shòu wǒ qǐng, yù fàn fú jí bǐ qiū sēng.” ěr shí, shì zūn mò rán shòu qǐng.

[0716c05] shi shi, ni jian zi bai shi zun yan: "wo jin yu chi, bu bie zhen di, nai xing ci huai, yu qu tan gong lun, yan se shi chang. you ru meng shou shi zi yao jian ren lai, you kong bu xin hu? zhong wu ci shi! jin ri ru lai yi fu ru shi, wu you hao mao. wo jin kuang huo, wei ming shen yi, nai gan chu rao. sha men qu tan suo shuo guo duo, you ru mang zhe de yan, long zhe che ting, mi zhe jian lu, wu mu jian se. sha men qu tan yi fu ru shi, wu shu fang bian er wei shuo fa. wo jin zi gui sha men qu tan,, fa,, bi qiu seng, zi jin yi hou jin xing shou, ting wei you po sai, bu fu sha sheng, wei yuan qu tan ji bi qiu seng! dang shou wo qing, yu fan fu ji bi qiu seng." er shi, shi zun mo ran shou qing.

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[0716c15] At that time, Nirgrantha (尼健子 [ni jian zi]), seeing that the World-Honored One (世尊 [shi zun]) had silently accepted the invitation, immediately rose from his seat, circumambulated the Buddha (佛 [fu]) three times, prostrated himself at his feet, and departed. He went to the youths of Vaisali (毘舍離 [pi she li]). Having arrived, he said to the youths: "You should provide me with all the provisions you are to offer, give them to me at the proper time, not at an improper time. I have now invited ascetic Gautama (沙門瞿曇 [sha men qu tan]) and the bhikkhu Sangha (比丘僧 [bi qiu seng]) to eat tomorrow."

[0716c15] shì shí, ní jiàn zi jiàn shì zūn mò rán shòu qǐng, jí cóng zuò qǐ, rào fú sān zā, tóu miàn lǐ zú ér qù. wǎng yì pí shě lí tóng zi suǒ. dào yǐ, yǔ tóng zi yuē: “rǔ děng suǒ yīng gōng yǎng wǒ jù, yǐ dāng shí gěi wǒ, mò yǐ fēi shí. wǒ jīn qǐng shā mén qú tán jí bǐ qiū sēng, míng dāng fàn zhī.”

[0716c15] shi shi, ni jian zi jian shi zun mo ran shou qing, ji cong zuo qi, rao fu san za, tou mian li zu er qu. wang yi pi she li tong zi suo. dao yi, yu tong zi yue: "ru deng suo ying gong yang wo ju, yi dang shi gei wo, mo yi fei shi. wo jin qing sha men qu tan ji bi qiu seng, ming dang fan zhi."

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[0716c20] At this time, the youths each prepared food and drink, and brought them to him. At this time, Nirgrantha (尼健子 [ni jian zi]) immediately prepared various delicious foods and drinks that night, laid out good seats, and said: "The time has come, now is the right time, I only wish you would come."

[0716c20] shì shí, zhū tóng zi gè bàn yǐn shí zhī jù, chí yòng yǔ zhī. shì shí, ní jiàn zi jí yǐ qí yè, bàn zhǒng zhǒng gān zhuàn yǐn shí, fū hǎo zuò jù, ér bái: “shí dào, jīn zhèng shì shí, wéi yuàn qū shēn.”

[0716c20] shi shi, zhu tong zi ge ban yin shi zhi ju, chi yong yu zhi. shi shi, ni jian zi ji yi qi ye, ban zhong zhong gan zhuan yin shi, fu hao zuo ju, er bai: "shi dao, jin zheng shi shi, wei yuan qu shen."

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[0716c23] At this time, the World-Honored One (世尊 [shi zun]), when it was time, put on his robes and took his bowl, and led the bhikkhu Sangha (比丘僧 [bi qiu seng]) into Vaisali (毘舍離 [pi she li]), and went to Nirgrantha's (尼健子 [ni jian zi]) house. Having arrived, he took his seat, and the bhikkhu Sangha (比丘僧 [bi qiu seng]) also sat down in order. At this time, Nirgrantha (尼健子 [ni jian zi]), seeing that the Buddha (佛 [fu]) and the bhikkhu Sangha (比丘僧 [bi qiu seng]) were seated, personally served various foods and drinks. Seeing that the Buddha (佛 [fu]) and the bhikkhu Sangha (比丘僧 [bi qiu seng]) had finished eating, he offered pure water, then took a small seat and sat before the Tathagata (如來 [ru lai]), wishing to hear the Dharma (法 [fa]).

[0716c23] shì shí, shì zūn dào shí, zhe yī chí bō, jiāng zhū bǐ qiū sēng rù pí shě lí, wǎng zhì ní jiàn zi jiā. dào yǐ jiù zuò, jí bǐ qiū sēng gè cì dì zuò. shì shí, ní jiàn zi yǐ jiàn fú,, bǐ qiū sēng zuò dìng, zì shǒu zhēn zhuó, xíng zhǒng zhǒng yǐn shí, jiàn fú,, bǐ qiū sēng shí qì, xíng qīng jìng shuǐ, biàn qǔ yī xiǎo zuò, zài rú lái qián zuò, yù dé wén fǎ.

[0716c23] shi shi, shi zun dao shi, zhe yi chi bo, jiang zhu bi qiu seng ru pi she li, wang zhi ni jian zi jia. dao yi jiu zuo, ji bi qiu seng ge ci di zuo. shi shi, ni jian zi yi jian fu,, bi qiu seng zuo ding, zi shou zhen zhuo, xing zhong zhong yin shi, jian fu,, bi qiu seng shi qi, xing qing jing shui, bian qu yi xiao zuo, zai ru lai qian zuo, yu de wen fa.

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[0716c29] At that time, the World-Honored One (世尊 [shi zun]) gradually explained the profound discourse, which was about: the discourse on giving, the discourse on precepts, the discourse on birth in heaven, that desire is defilement, that sexual misconduct is impure, and that liberation is joy. At that time, the World-Honored One (世尊 [shi zun]), seeing that Nirgrantha's (尼健子 [ni jian zi]) mind was open and understanding, then explained to Nirgrantha (尼健子 [ni jian zi]) the Four Noble Truths (苦 [ku]、習 [xi]、盡 [jin]、道 [dao]) that all Buddhas (諸佛世尊 [zhu fu shi zun]) always teach. At this time, Nirgrantha (尼健子 [ni jian zi]), while still seated, eradicated all defilements and impurities, and attained the pure Dharma-eye (法眼淨 [fa yan jing]).

[0716c29] ěr shí, shì zūn jiàn yǔ shuō miào lùn, suǒ wèi lùn zhě: shī lùn,, jiè lùn,, shēng tiān zhī lùn, yù wèi huì è, yín bù jìng xíng, chū yào wèi lè. ěr shí, shì zūn yǐ jiàn ní jiàn zi xīn kāi yì jiě, zhū fú shì zūn cháng suǒ shuō fǎ, kǔ,, xí,, jǐn,, dào, jǐn yǔ bǐ ní jiàn zi shuō zhī. shì shí, ní jiàn zi jí yú zuò shàng, zhū chén gòu jǐn, dé fǎ yǎn jìng.

[0716c29] er shi, shi zun jian yu shuo miao lun, suo wei lun zhe: shi lun,, jie lun,, sheng tian zhi lun, yu wei hui e, yin bu jing xing, chu yao wei le. er shi, shi zun yi jian ni jian zi xin kai yi jie, zhu fu shi zun chang suo shuo fa, ku,, xi,, jin,, dao, jin yu bi ni jian zi shuo zhi. shi shi, ni jian zi ji yu zuo shang, zhu chen gou jin, de fa yan jing.

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[0717a05] At this time, the World-Honored One (世尊 [shi zun]) then spoke this verse:

"Among sacrifices, fire is supreme,
Among poems and books, hymns are foremost,
Among humans, the king is most eminent,
Among all streams, the sea is the source,
Among stars, the moon is brightest,
Among lights, the sun is most excellent.
Above, below, and in the four directions,
All things that arise from the earth,
Heavenly beings and human beings,
The Buddha (佛 [fu]) is the unsurpassed venerable one,
Those who seek his virtues,
The Three Buddhas (三佛 [san fu]) are supreme."

[0717a05] shì shí, shì zūn biàn shuō cǐ jì:

“cí sì huǒ wèi shàng,　　shī shū sòng wèi shǒu,
　rén zhōng wáng wèi zuì,　　zhòng liú hǎi wèi yuán,
　xīng zhōng yuè wèi míng,　　guāng míng rì zuì shèng.
　shàng xià jí sì fāng,　　zhū de suǒ chū wù,
　tiān jí rén mín lèi,　　fú wèi wú shàng zūn,
　yù qiú qí dé zhě,　　sān fú wèi zuì shàng.”

[0717a05] shi shi, shi zun bian shuo ci ji:

"ci si huo wei shang, shi shu song wei shou,
ren zhong wang wei zui, zhong liu hai wei yuan,
xing zhong yue wei ming, guang ming ri zui sheng.
shang xia ji si fang, zhu de suo chu wu,
tian ji ren min lei, fu wei wu shang zun,
yu qiu qi de zhe, san fu wei zui shang."

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[0717a12] At that time, when the World-Honored One (世尊 [shi zun]) had spoken this verse, he immediately rose from his seat and departed.

At this time, Nirgrantha's (尼健子 [ni jian zi]) five hundred disciples, hearing that their teacher had received the Buddha's (佛 [fu]) teaching and transformation, each said to one another: "How is our great teacher, our sect, now following Gautama (瞿曇 [qu tan])?" At this time, the disciples left the city of Vaisali (毘舍離城 [pi she li cheng]) and stood in the middle of the road. At this time, Nirgrantha (尼健子 [ni jian zi]) wanted to go to the Buddha's (佛 [fu]) abode to listen to the Dharma (法 [fa]). At this time, the World-Honored One (世尊 [shi zun]) explained the Dharma (法 [fa]) to Nirgrantha (尼健子 [ni jian zi]), helping him to rejoice. Having heard the Dharma (法 [fa]), Nirgrantha (尼健子 [ni jian zi]) immediately rose from his seat, prostrated himself at his feet, and departed.

[0717a12] ěr shí, shì zūn shuō cǐ jì yǐ, jí cóng zuò qǐ ér qù.

shì shí, ní jiàn zi wǔ bǎi dì zi wén shī shòu fú jiào huà, wén yǐ, gè gè zì xiāng wèi yán: “wǒ děng dà shī, yún hé shī zōng qú tán?” shì shí, zhū dì zi chū pí shě lí chéng, zài zhōng dào lì. shì shí, ní jiàn zi yù zhì fú suǒ tīng fǎ. shì shí, shì zūn yǔ ní jiàn zi shuō fǎ, zhù lìng huān xǐ. ní jiàn zi wén fǎ yǐ, jí cóng zuò qǐ, tóu miàn lǐ zú, biàn tuì ér qù.

[0717a12] er shi, shi zun shuo ci ji yi, ji cong zuo qi er qu.

shi shi, ni jian zi wu bai di zi wen shi shou fu jiao hua, wen yi, ge ge zi xiang wei yan: "wo deng da shi, yun he shi zong qu tan?" shi shi, zhu di zi chu pi she li cheng, zai zhong dao li. shi shi, ni jian zi yu zhi fu suo ting fa. shi shi, shi zun yu ni jian zi shuo fa, zhu ling huan xi. ni jian zi wen fa yi, ji cong zuo qi, tou mian li zu, bian tui er qu.

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[0717a18] At this time, Nirgrantha's (尼健子 [ni jian zi]) disciples saw their teacher coming from afar, and each said to one another: "This disciple of ascetic Gautama (沙門瞿曇 [sha men qu tan]) is now coming on the path; each of you take a tile or stone and strike him to death."

[0717a18] shì shí, ní jiàn zi dì zi yáo jiàn shī lái, gè gè zì xiāng wèi yán: “cǐ shā mén qú tán dì zi jīn zhe dào lái, gè gè qǔ wǎ shí ér dǎ shā zhī.”

[0717a18] shi shi, ni jian zi di zi yao jian shi lai, ge ge zi xiang wei yan: "ci sha men qu tan di zi jin zhe dao lai, ge ge qu wa shi er da sha zhi."

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[0717a20] Then, the youths, hearing that Nirgrantha (尼健子 [ni jian zi]) had been killed by his disciples, went to the World-Honored One's (世尊 [shi zun]) abode, prostrated themselves at his feet, and sat down to one side. Then, the youths said to the World-Honored One (世尊 [shi zun]): "The Nirgrantha (尼健子 [ni jian zi]) whom the Tathagata (如來 [ru lai]) taught and transformed, has now been killed by his disciples. Having now passed away, where has he been reborn?"

[0717a20] shí, zhū tóng zi wén ní jiàn zi wèi dì zi suǒ shā, wǎng zhì shì zūn suǒ, tóu miàn lǐ zú, zài yī miàn zuò. ěr shí, zhū tóng zi bái shì zūn yán: “rú lái suǒ kě jiào huà ní jiàn zi zhě, jīn wèi dì zi suǒ shā. jīn yǐ mìng zhōng, wèi shēng hé chù?”

[0717a20] shi, zhu tong zi wen ni jian zi wei di zi suo sha, wang zhi shi zun suo, tou mian li zu, zai yi mian zuo. er shi, zhu tong zi bai shi zun yan: "ru lai suo ke jiao hua ni jian zi zhe, jin wei di zi suo sha. jin yi ming zhong, wei sheng he chu?"

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[0717a24] The World-Honored One (世尊 [shi zun]) replied: "He was a virtuous person, complete in the Four Noble Truths (四諦 [si di]), with the three fetters extinguished, and attained Sotapanna (須陀洹 [xu tuo huan]). He will certainly eradicate suffering. Today, having passed away, he has been reborn in the Tavatimsa Heaven (三十三天 [san shi san tian]). Having seen Maitreya Buddha (彌勒佛 [mi lei fu]), he will then eradicate suffering. This is the meaning, you should contemplate practicing it."

[0717a24] shì zūn gào yuē: “bǐ shì yǒu dé zhī rén, sì dì jù zú, sān jié shǐ miè, chéng xū tuó huán, bì jǐn kǔ jì, jīn rì mìng zhōng shēng sān shí sān tiān, bǐ jiàn mí lēi fú yǐ, dāng jǐn kǔ jì. cǐ shì qí yì, dāng niàn xiū xíng.”

[0717a24] shi zun gao yue: "bi shi you de zhi ren, si di ju zu, san jie shi mie, cheng xu tuo huan, bi jin ku ji, jin ri ming zhong sheng san shi san tian, bi jian mi lei fu yi, dang jin ku ji. ci shi qi yi, dang nian xiu xing."

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[0717a28] At that time, the youths said to the World-Honored One (世尊 [shi zun]): "How wonderful! How extraordinary! This Nirgrantha (尼健子 [ni jian zi]) came to the World-Honored One's (世尊 [shi zun]) abode, debated with him, and then bound himself with his own arguments, and came to be transformed by the Tathagata (如來 [ru lai]). One who sees the Tathagata (如來 [ru lai]) will never be in vain, just as someone who enters the sea to seek treasures will certainly gain something, and will never return empty-handed. This is also like that; any sentient being who comes to the Tathagata's (如來 [ru lai]) abode will certainly obtain the Dharma-treasure, and will never return empty-handed."

[0717a28] ěr shí, zhū tóng zi bái shì zūn yán: “shén qí! shén tè! cǐ ní jiàn zi zhì shì zūn suǒ, jué lùn yì, hái yǐ jǐ lùn ér zì fù, lái shòu rú lái huà. fū jiàn rú lái zhě zhōng wú xū wàng, yóu rú yǒu rén rù hǎi qǔ bǎo, bì yǒu suǒ kè huò, zhōng bù kōng hái. cǐ yì rú shì, qí yǒu zhòng shēng zhì rú lái suǒ zhě, yào dé fǎ bǎo, zhōng bù kōng hái.”

[0717a28] er shi, zhu tong zi bai shi zun yan: "shen qi! shen te! ci ni jian zi zhi shi zun suo, jue lun yi, hai yi ji lun er zi fu, lai shou ru lai hua. fu jian ru lai zhe zhong wu xu wang, you ru you ren ru hai qu bao, bi you suo ke huo, zhong bu kong hai. ci yi ru shi, qi you zhong sheng zhi ru lai suo zhe, yao de fa bao, zhong bu kong hai."

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[0717b04] At that time, the World-Honored One (世尊 [shi zun]) explained the subtle Dharma (法 [fa]) to the youths, causing them to rejoice. At that time, the youths, having heard the Dharma (法 [fa]) from the Buddha (佛 [fu]), immediately rose from their seats, circumambulated the Buddha (佛 [fu]) three times, prostrated themselves at his feet, and departed.

[0717b04] ěr shí, shì zūn yǔ zhū tóng zi shuō wēi miào fǎ, shǐ lìng huān xǐ. ěr shí, zhū tóng zi cóng fú wén fǎ yǐ, jí cóng zuò qǐ, rào fú sān zā, tóu miàn lǐ zú, biàn tuì ér qù.

[0717b04] er shi, shi zun yu zhu tong zi shuo wei miao fa, shi ling huan xi. er shi, zhu tong zi cong fu wen fa yi, ji cong zuo qi, rao fu san za, tou mian li zu, bian tui er qu.

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[0717b07] At that time, the youths rejoiced and practiced what the Buddha (佛 [fu]) had said.

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[0717b07] ěr shí, zhū tóng zi wén fú suǒ shuō, huān xǐ fèng xíng.

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[0717b07] er shi, zhu tong zi wen fu suo shuo, huan xi feng xing.

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